kalisti
KickStarter Backers
Posts: 10
|
Post by kalisti on Nov 8, 2012 19:53:49 GMT -5
I had never played the original Shadowgate, so I found a Flash version on line and played through it! What a hoot! It was still so much fun. I never liked dying so much in my life. Makes me look forward to the new Shadowgate even more.
|
|
|
Post by wizardstan on Nov 8, 2012 23:03:48 GMT -5
So much nostalgia. Took me an hour to beat it but only because it kept triggering memories of what I needed to do next. Hopefully I haven't spoiled the remake for myself too much.
|
|
|
Post by kiwiblazer on Nov 9, 2012 0:37:34 GMT -5
Do you have the link to the game?
|
|
otakuman
Global Moderator
Community Manager
Posts: 31
|
Post by otakuman on Nov 9, 2012 0:42:32 GMT -5
I had never played the original Shadowgate, so I found a Flash version on line and played through it! What a hoot! It was still so much fun. I never liked dying so much in my life. Makes me look forward to the new Shadowgate even more. I'm glad you feel that way! Although that online Flash version is unlikely to be an official release, (unless Dave & Karl did something years ago during the Infinite Ventures days that I'm not aware of) it's still nice to hear about your excitement! Sadly, since it's technically an infringement on Zojoi's IP, we'd probably have to issue a Cease & Desist of some sort should we ever come across it. But then again, if an online flash version of the game is really catching on, then perhaps Zojoi should get an official version out there? So much nostalgia. Took me an hour to beat it but only because it kept triggering memories of what I needed to do next. Hopefully I haven't spoiled the remake for myself too much. Oh I wouldn't worry about that! There's going to be lots of new puzzles as well as changes to the existing rooms to keep the adventure fresh and challenging. Take the infamous EPOR room, for example. That room's still going to be there, but there's going to be a new problem: It's flooded with water! There will still be a sign that says "EPOR" on the wall, but soggy rope isn't going to do you much good in escaping that room. Good luck!
|
|
otakuman
Global Moderator
Community Manager
Posts: 31
|
Post by otakuman on Nov 9, 2012 0:46:40 GMT -5
Do you have the link to the game? I hate to be a party pooper, but unfortunately, sharing the link would constitute a violation of Rule #2 I'm afraid. "No Sharing of Emulators and/or ROMs" You can talk about it, sure, but I really don't want to have to issue a warning to anybody in the first 24 hours of the Forum's existence because they shared a link to an unauthorized Flash version of Shadowgate. On top of that, if someone did share it, then one of us here at Zojoi would likely then have to write them a cease and desist (or work out some other arrangement; whatever they might have in mind), since then we'd know where it was. I know, this makes me a bit of a spoil sport here, but talk about this flash version could prompt us to look into making one of our own! You never know!
|
|
|
Post by anonymous on Nov 9, 2012 1:12:19 GMT -5
If it's the version I'm thinking of, it's just a simple flash port of the NES game. He was probably even unaware that any current work was being done on the franchise.
|
|
|
Post by wizardstan on Nov 9, 2012 7:29:40 GMT -5
Yeah, it's available on Newgrounds: search "shadowgate" if you so desire. It is neither emulator nor ROM, it's actually been completely reimplemented. For the sake of copyright, however, it's using the original graphics and music so classifies as a derivative works. Whether it uses too much original content to be considered fair use or not is probably left to someone who isn't me, so best do your own search before linking anything questionable, eh?
|
|
kalisti
KickStarter Backers
Posts: 10
|
Post by kalisti on Nov 9, 2012 13:37:02 GMT -5
I didn't realize it was unofficial.
|
|
|
Post by SpikeDaPenguin on Nov 9, 2012 14:09:20 GMT -5
I'd say if there's anything worthwhile to come out of this thread it's the possibility of a Official Flash version of the original Shadowgate could be made.
Make this happen please!
|
|
otakuman
Global Moderator
Community Manager
Posts: 31
|
Post by otakuman on Nov 9, 2012 16:28:15 GMT -5
I didn't realize it was unofficial. No worries. And like was said, this could mean that there's a market for a browser-accessible flash version. We'll have to keep that in mind.
|
|
TStodden
KickStarter Backers
Game Monkey
Posts: 1
|
Post by TStodden on Nov 9, 2012 16:29:01 GMT -5
Re-creations, even if they don't utilize anything from the original release versions, do tend to run afoul of copyright law under the "Look & Feel" clause. The people who made it were probably running on the ideal that the game software was abandoned at the time & just made their own copy to keep the spirit of the game alive.
While I see Zojoi's position here (as the legitimate owners of the game's copyright), I hope they try to be as gentle as possible with the authors of the unofficial Flash version as things aren't always clear when it comes to older versions of game & Zojoi really don't need to generate any major ill will from others.
As for the possibility of an Official Flash / HTML5 version of Shadowgate... I can see it in the future, but nothing more than a demo of the game (like just the first part of the game, stopping after the room of fire) in order to entice players to buy. However, we'll have to wait for the official re-release to get completed first.
|
|
kalisti
KickStarter Backers
Posts: 10
|
Post by kalisti on Nov 9, 2012 16:41:51 GMT -5
An official flash version would be awesome!
|
|
|
Post by odienman on Nov 11, 2012 12:53:19 GMT -5
I didn't realize it was unofficial. No worries. And like was said, this could mean that there's a market for a browser-accessible flash version. We'll have to keep that in mind. Its interesting, when I first saw that Shadowgate was being remade, my first thought that it was going to be a flashbased version online (not a multiplayer game) that everyone could log onto and would have continuing adventures open up. I know I'd rather play a game like this on say Facebook, and have new adventures open semi-regularly.
|
|
|
Post by wizardstan on Nov 11, 2012 13:55:03 GMT -5
I'd rather play a game like this on say Facebook Blasphemy!
|
|
|
Post by odienman on Nov 11, 2012 15:05:06 GMT -5
I'd rather play a game like this on say Facebook Blasphemy! Let me clarify. I'd rather play a game like flash-shadowgate than the other options they have. However I'd rather play games in general off of Facebook. That being said, I wonder how much of a market there is a for say adventures in Shadowgate design on an online format, say through your phone or just to log on and play for fun online. Don't quote me but I'm pretty sure what flash can do these days is 100X more capable than what the tools used to build the original Shadowgate and I imagine they could be produced for very little (in comparison to most major games today).
|
|